10 posts from March 2008

Sorry for skipping yesterday.  I was spending the last day of Spring Break in San Francisco. 

I pulled out yet another dance song.  

The only words are at the beginning of the song and it is "Time to party with Mr. Nepalm!" 

A dark, intro groove is in the beginning.  Normally beats as song as this would be boring but this wasn't since there was musicality to it.  Such intro beats should be this way.

As the melody changes, there's a laugh that is heard.  The melody repeats itself and and it morphs back into the earlier beat and then again into the main melody.  

The song is really good.  Its a nifty song to dance to as well as just listen to.  It may bother those who like words in their techno songs (I know a few), but I find the melody really contagious.  The only thing wrong with this is repetition of the melody and the beats.  They were nice to listen to, but sitting through the song for just listening pleasure can bore you to an extent.  Therefore, I would rate the song a 8/10.

Today, I am reviewing one of the hundreds of Dare remixes out there.

The intro isn't too boring. One layer of sound is layered over another including the repeating phrase "baby." After that, the song starts off with how the original did with "IT'S DARE!" Then there's a dance pattern that follows.  

The chorus of the original follows after that.  Afterwards, the part with the whole "never meant no harm ... etc.... it's dare" is a bit chopped up, but it is so to go with the simple beat in the background.  Its a big boring but I've heard way worse.

The part is repeated again in the normal fashion and the background dance patterns kicks up again. Once the chorus repeats itself, the song ends the way it began.

Its decent as far as remixes go.  It would make a fine addition to a collection of songs to play at parties or clubs.  Its not exciting to just sit down and listen too, but many remixes aren't.   

To be honest there isn't much to say about this song.

I found out that the artist was just another average joe DJ that posted video game soundtrack remixes on his Soundclick account.  I'd like to link the site but It doesn't seem to exist anymore.

This particular song is a remix from that one Star Fox game for the Game Cube.  I can't recall the name of it but I remember watching my older sister play the game and found this track soon after it. 

The review is going to be brief since I don't have much to say. Its only nice to listen to only if you are doing something else, like working on something or reading.  The main purpose was to be background music and even in this remix, it remains to be just the same chilling beat repeated over, and over, and over again.  I don't mind it really, but since it defeats the purpose of a song, I'll give it a 3/10.

I didn't think I'll listen to this song again since I killed it for myself, but here I am reviewing this stuff.  It popped up in my rotation so lets kick this pig!

The song itself is charming and simple.  It can't be listened multiple times in just a few minutes otherwise it would get really boring.  In other-words, it can be overplayed.  Its definitely not the typical Counting Crows, so its a song that one could really love or really hate.  

I normally associate this song to Shrek 2 since I heard it for the first time when I watched the movie. The song really didn't connect with me mainly since I wasn't that big into the movie and the song is affiliated with the movie in my mind.  It really isn't fair for the song so I'll have to really listen to the song. 

The song can really identify for those who are actually have been in love.  What made a connection to me were the lyrics:

Now for the video, it opens to a rabbit singing.  Throughout the video, this guy is making breakfast for a girl who is sleeping still and seems to be failing miserably.  The rabbit wanders into the room and watches the guy make breakfast and as the video draws to a conclusion, he wakes the girl off and convinces her to run off with him.  The guy succeeds in actually making a decent looking breakfast to realize that the girl is gone and a picture of the girl and the rabbit together is left on the bed where she was.  I feel sorta bad for the guy who made the trouble to make the breakfast but I got over it quickly.

The music video did relate to the song in a very odd way.  The rabbit and the girl were accidentally in love.  I thought the couple was very weird but I just went along with it.

I felt the video was a bit below average: a 4/10.  It was okay since it went along with the song and the video had some sort of a story.  However, it was forgettable.  Nothing about the video really stood out in my mind.  I'll most likely forget most of the video in about five months or so.

I like the song better though. I'll give it a 6/10.

It had lyrics that could connect with the listener.  Plenty of people have been in love so it could reach out to a widespread audience.

However, as I mentioned, the song can be overplayed.  I suppose someone should've told that to radio stations when it first came out.  The radio has a way of beating a dead horse with these songs.  To an extent, the song could also be forgettable in the sense that many people may not care much for the song in the future.  

I've been trying to avoid doing Gorillaz since I'm increasingly biased in their favor, but I figure I could be more critical of this song since I've never been a fan. I say this now but I probably will go back to praising the heavens for their songs like Dare and El Manana. 

Lets start out with the song itself.  I didn't have a clue about what this song is all about until recently despite the fact that I've listened to the song numerous times before.

Judging from the condition that is explained by "drinking too much," the speaker is drunk or something of the kind. He seems too drunk to even finish his sentences because of it.  The chorus explains the reason for drinking, especially this line:

So, there's the first verse and the chorus.  After that runs through, the very same verse repeats again and again. I'm normally not a fan when a song does that, but I can normally forgive a song that does that.  I mean, I didn't hold that against the Killer's Mr. Brightside. I really love that song.  Anyway, back to this.

I'm not really sure how to explain this, but this song bores me to tears.  I think its the only Gorillaz song that I don't like.  Don't quite quote me on that, I'll need to check that for sure.  Just be sure that I love practically all their songs and this is not one of the songs and I'll tell you why.  Listening to this song is the equivalent of listening to someone fool around on a drum-set.  While interesting for a while since it ISN'T the same thing over and over again, it gets really boring after a while.  You loose track of where you are in the song.

Now let's get to the video.  The overall feeling of the video is also repetitive in left you with the feeling of "wait... that's it?"  

The video starts out with a shot of zombie shadows with the words "zombie flesh eaters" showing up.  Then once the video starts, a statue of some kind of lizard/reptile creature is shown... well just the face at first.  "Rock it" is shown.  There's a lot of words shown in the video.  Those already mentioned are the first of many.

Well, I suppose for those ignorant ones, Gorillaz is a cartoon band.  The blue haired dude, 2-D, is the lead singer.  The girl he was giving a piggy-back ride throughout the video is Noodle, the guitarist.  Murdoc, the bassist, and Russel, drums, have very short cameos in this video.  But Murdoc is the one with a very green skin tone while Russel is not.  Normally, all of them are playing whatever instrument they play in music videos but this one doesn't. 

So the video starts out with this really creepy close-up of 2-D's face.  For some reason, his eyes being white really makes my soul shiver.  After that whole close-up, the video establishes the band strolling through a foggy area with tree branches growing towards them.  If you are obsessed with the Gorillaz as much as I am, you'll know that the group is going towards Kong Studios, the Gorillaz HQ per-say. Appearantly a lot of crazy shit happens outside that place in music videos and such.  Another example of this would be in the Clint Eastwood video.  Possessed gorillas were running about in that video.

While the group is walking, plants bloom out zombie heads of what represent celebrities, or what they establish at the end of the video as false icons. Random words that don't make sense mixed in with "bla bla bla bla...." pop out from the zombie heads.  The band totally ignore all of these heads.  Even at one point, they walk all over the ones on the ground. So the rest of the video consists of flashes of the heads, the creepy close-up of 2-D, the gang just walking, and the statue mouthing off "rock it." The video ends with the group walking by the statues and later showing the words "Reject False Icons."

I easily find that the video has nothing to do with the message of the actual song.  I can't entirely hate the music video because of the message it sends out, but I can say that it was just as boring as the song.  The same animations for the characters are used over, and over again.  I almost didn't finish the video the very first time I ever watched it. I kept on watching it in hopes that something cool or interesting might happen, but that something never came.  They might as well just say "reject false icons" and let us move on. I see the video and the song at the same level of 3/10.  Gorillaz has definitely done better and you know it.

Okay now, this song is in polish. You heard that right: Polish.

To be honest though,  I normally don't listen to songs from other countries that don't speak english because I get frustrated that I don't know what is being said.  However, Japanese music seems to be exempt from this because Aya (who I'll review stuff later on) is my freakin' idol. 

How did I come across this song?  Well, one of my friends used to work for a DJ and she ended up getting loads and loads of techno, trance, and club songs and remixes; this being one of the songs.  I took a portion of the songs and added it into my library. Strangely enough, I haven't listened to this song until just yesterday.  Since then, I listened to it over and over again to think up of a good review.

Well, first, I don't know Polish so I used one of those free translation services to translate the lyrics.  This is what I got from it:

You know already

You know already

(fading) You know already

You know already that everything simply said may not be simply done.

You know already.

(repeat another three times)

You know already

You know already

You know already

You know already

Since its from a free translation service, its probably not completely correct.  Now if you know Polish and could translate the following lyrics, please do:

Teraz już wiesz

Teraz już wiesz

(fading) Teraz już wiesz

A teraz już wiesz, że nie wszystko proste jest.
Nie jest łatwo mówić tak, kiedy wszyscy mówią nie.
Już wiesz.

(repeat three times)

Teraz już wiesz

Teraz już wiesz

Teraz już wiesz

Teraz już wiesz

When listening to a club remix, I have to look at the song in two ways 1) to dance to 2) to listen to.

1) The song isn't that danceable in certain ways.  Sure the techno interludes would be great but there isn't a steady beat to truly dance to once the chorus rolls around.  It isn't perfect so I can't dock it too much. I'll give it a 7/10 to dance to.

2) There isn't much I could dock down for the listening part.  The song completely avoids the pit most techno songs do: repeating just a beat and a few noises over and over again in the song introduction.  I have to give it props for that.  There's only just a bit in the beginning that would be like that but it doesn't make the song boring since it only lasts for a few seconds.  Some techno songs have that for the first... lets say two minutes.  But at the same time, there isn't much to offer either, since it is just a remix. I'll give it a 5/10 since there isn't anything bad or anything great.

Not another Aaliyah video!  Indeed it is.  I'll do stuff like this all the time; meaning I'll do an album review and all the music videos that come along.  I believe this is the last Aaliyah video for this album but don't quote me on that. I still need to check.

I still stand by my view that the song is rather boring in a way but having a catchy chorus makes up for it. You can easily catch yourself singing the chorus: 

I found the music video a bit interesting.  A motorcyclist is shown and the camera goes inside the mechanism of the motorcycle to show Aaliyah and some girls dancing inside.  I'll be a little weirded out to see little people inside my motorcycle but whatever... The background of the video seems a bit weird to me.  My theory is that it was computer generated or something and things weren't as advanced back in 2001. Its my theory and I'm sticking to it.

She's in white again in the video.  The entire time in this scene, they're just dancing.  The camera goes on a upward angle on the girls sometimes, which extenuates their butts and makes their romp shaking much more provocative. Half of the time, I keep staring at the things in the background moving instead of the pretty dancers though. 

There are brief cameos of Aaliyah in black and sunglasses facing her body towards a funky glass wall.  There are only a few and they're all short little clips.

And still inbetween all of this, there are still clips of the motorcyclist driving along at a fast speed.  Conveniently for the person, there seems to be no traffic. 

The scene changes to a different dance floor, which while still being inside the motorcycle, it looks like an actual dance place complete with a DJ, speakers, and more dancers. There's a specific scene in which Aaliyah is shaking her romp in front of this guy and he tries to touch it.  Being the tease that she is, she doesn't let him. I didn't see much of a point in this but this video doesn't have a point to begin with so I shouldn't really be complaining.

The video concludes with more pictures of Aaliyah dancing in this new setting and the motorcyclist stopping, taking off her helmet, and reveals to be Aaliyah herself. 

In conclusion, the video is just like her other ones: random images put together to the song and more reasons to show off Aaliyah's dancing abilities.  It was very average so I'm giving it a 5/10.  Just like Rock the Boat, I'll give the video props for the lovely dancing and, in this video's case, an interesting setting.  I still don't really know how to react to the dancing people inside a motorcycle.  It was a "WTF" moment for me.

For the song, I'll give it a 4/10.  It wasn't great for me and I don't really understand the popularity it got. It would've been lower if it weren't for the fact that the chorus was so bloody fun to sing.  

Off topic:  Did you notice the difference in the images?  I started taking screenshots from videos with better resolution since I was frustrated with getting crappy screenshots from youtube videos.  Yes, I previously used youtube. I'm just a bit excited.  I always like blogs with pretty images and I'd like my blog to be so too. Well, enjoy.

Sigh... This is my third time re-writing this damn thing.  Most of you think I have no life typing this on easter, but I'm just waiting so I figure why not.  What happened is my web browser kept on quitting... So if this review sucks more than the previous one... that is why!

Anyway, it was rather hard for me to look at this video as just another music video and I'll tell you why: this was the last video Aaliyah did before she died.  In fact, she finished the video early and she and the people working on this pack themselves on the plane with heavy equipment.  The weight the plane was carrying exceeded what it was designed to do and the plane crash not too far from take-off.  However, people also found that the pilot was not approved to pilot the plane he was trying the pilot and an autopsy report showed traces of alcohol and cocaine... Anyway, enough with the history lesson and onto the review!

As I said in a previous entry, I think the song is pretty great. Its grooving enough to dance to and chilling enough to relax to.  Her voice seems one with the music in the sense that her words don't really say anything since its more of an instrument at this point.  I would give it a 8/10 because its one of Aaliyah's best but it isn't anything groundbreaking. 

As I analyzed the lyrics, I had a feeling that the song was a big sexual innuendo.  I was hoping that I was being way too dirty minded for my own good but this part confirmed it:

I have nothing against that since its the subject of the song.  Its a nothing message that appears in a lot of popular songs these days.  I forgive it since the song is so grooving and I just love Aaliyah.

Since the song has not much of a point, neither does the video.  To summarize the entire video, the video just features cameos of Aaliyah in different locations either baffing about or dancing with a group of dark-skinned girls.  Before the music begins, Aaliyah is walking along the shore.  She turns around and approaches the camera.  As the music starts, the camera also shows Aaliyah, dressed in white beach clothes, dancing with the girls, also dressed in white, on a completely white sailboat. 

I have to say from the start that I'm a big fan of the contrast of the white clothes and boat with the girls' skin.  It really showed off their curves and movements. I just like dark-skinned girls wearing light fabrics in general.  I remember I watched a Beyonce video once in which she was in a sunny, yellow dress and I thought she was stunning.  On the flipside, I think white girls such as myself should wear dark colors.

Now back to the video. After a certain point, the dancing girls are featured again in white tops and denim bottoms.  They seem to be dancing on water but don't quote me on that. The video flips from that scene to Aaliyah singing towards the camera facing from an upward angle.  She seems to be still standing on water.

At the end of the video, Aaliyah is shown on the beach again, but in a very red outfit complete with a red hat and bright red lipstick.  Inbetween those cameos are scenes of her gliding underwater.  She seems very mermaid-like with her clothes and wavy hair flowing with the water currents. The video ends with the camera looking on Aaliyah underwater from below and Aaliyah swims upward.  The surface is completely bright from the sun and the immense sunlight engulfs her. 

The video isn't anything special. Its really just a bunch of images put together for a song, really.  I'll give it a 5/10.  It would normally get below average.  But I love Aaliyah and her great dance moves.  I think the colors were well put together, especially on the boat scene.  I'll have to give it props for that.

This song has a music video.  I have mentioned this song in an earlier review.  The song is nothing special but its rather catchy and makes for a great opening for Aaliyah's 2001 album.  

The entire music video has NOTHING to do with the lyrics of the song.  There's nothing wrong with that.  If there was, there would be a lot of bad music videos.  To summarize the entire video, it just features Timbaland in the same place while Aaliyah is all over the place.  In one moment, Aaliyah's sitting in a futuristic, spherical chair that is moving.  In another, Aaliyah is lounging in lacy black clothing in heels.  There's another part where she's floating as if she were laying on something invisible.  Her face shown on a TV at one point also.  My favorite cameos 

of her are the part in which Aaliyah, all covered in dirt, is lounging in almost nothing while snakes wrap around her body and the part when Aaliyah struts her hip hop dance abilities with a group of male dancers behind her.

The song somewhat leaves you hanging since the rap that featured Timbaland is at the end of the song.  Once its done, the song is done.  It doesn't happen a lot in these kinds of songs because the chorus would follow it.  I'm not entirely sure if I think its a good thing or a bad thing... its just different.

I suppose I'm rather surprised that this song had enough ratings to get a music video.  I'm not sure how popular it was since I only got into Aaliyah's wonderful music about a few years after she died- so probably around 2004ish. Moreover, the song seemed like more of an introduction than anything else. 

Visually, the music video is very interesting.  Its nice to watch when you're not looking for a connection between all of these images you're seeing.  The rooms that Aaliyah lounge in are very modern and at times futuristic looking.  Its very pleasing to the eye.

The song seems to describe a relationship turning into a what I call a relationshit due to excessive arguing and pinning the blame on each other. 

Her main message is repeated towards the end of the chorus:

It seems, at least to me, that Timbaland plays the part of who Aaliyah's conflicting as he concludes his rap with:

Overall, the music video is nothing special.  Its not bad either since I'm not repulsed at all watching the thing.  Its rather forgettable, more so than the song. I would give it a 6/10 and would give the song in general around the same rating.

For the record, I apologize for how disorganized the review is.  My thoughts were all over the place and such.  I realized this as I was re-reading this before posting.  Even the pictures are out of order.  This is my first music video review or probably many so please bear with me. 

1. We Need a Resolution (featuring Timbaland) :: The song starts with a good 'ol hip hop beat overlaid with the phrase "I'm tired of arguing girl" before Aaliyah sings.  The instrumental hardly changes throughout the entire song.  More was put in once the chorus rolls along and some was taken away when Timbaland has his rap solo.  The consistency of the instrumental makes the entire song seem repetitive, but that's how most hip hop music is like unfortunately. Nothing's too harsh so the overall song is very laid back- almost an easy listening feel to it.  The chorus is somewhat catchy. Overall, the song makes a decent opening for the album. 

2. Loose Rap (featuring Static) :: I think it was a good choice to stick "I'm sick of tired of this loose rap" at the very beginning of the track since the song maintains the same mood as We Need a Resolution. The beat remains the same throughout the entire song and the repeating instrumental is very smooth.  However, the mood is a bit more intense since the tempo is a bit faster and the subject is more offensive.  Despite the repeating chorus and beat, the song is much more like-able than the first song.  It calm enough to just sit to and fast enough to dance to. Like most of the songs on her previous albums, her songs have a true hip hop feel.  When I say that, I mean the feel you get when you listen to a song that is obviously in the hip hop genre and you feel proud to know so since you love the song so much.  

3. Rock the Boat :: This song is so beautifully different than any other song on this album.  The atmosphere is reminiscent of perhaps a quiet day on the beach or a boat. As an artist, when I hear songs, I also see different color combinations.  So when I first heard this song, I visualized the main theme of orange relating to a beach scene.  The song also ties in with the album cover in that perspective.  The beat doesn't stay the same and either does the main body of the instrumental.  Normally when I find instrumentals to certain hip hop songs, I don't really like them.  But I would really consider getting an instrumental only track of this song if I came across it. Its almost a lounge, down-tempo beat and its great to listen to when just chilling.  I highly recommend this song.  If you want to sample some of Aaliyah's songs, this should be one of them.

4. More than a Woman :: The fact that the overall song stands out in the album in a good way makes up for the fact that the song is a bit repetitive.  The melody is lacking in the song and the stronger vocal presence of Aaliyah's singing is barely enough to save the song. The lyrics and the chorus could be a bit catchy at times too.  Moreover, this song was rather popular at the time of the album's release and there was even a music video filmed for it.  Its obvious that it was catchy enough for a lot of people but Aaliyah has definitely done better.

5. Never No More :: Right off the bat, the song isn't too catchy and the melodies that occur after the first verse seem awkward and out of place.  The chorus seems a bit more like a bridge to the chorus rather than a chorus.  The so called bridge is immediately followed by the second verse, leaving the listener in a "hey! wait a minute..." position.   However... the song is a lovely soulful song that really does show off Aaliyah's vocal range and the lyrics are very meaningful and hit home for some (especially me).  For that reason, the song is very lovable and brings back emotion everytime the song is heard.  The song especially seems a bit more sad after listening to the upbeat and determined sounding More than a Woman. On a happier note, the song does tie its awkward ends as it draws near an end.

6. I Care 4 U :: This song seems really similar to the previous track only because the songs have similar beats and almost identical tempos.  The backing instruments in the song is enough to differentiate between this song and Never No More. Also, the melody is different.  Speaking of the melody, the entire song has a simple and relaxed feel to it despite the "desperate" lyrics spilled out since the verses have the same strong vocal quality as the chorus.  Since its another soulful song, this song also shows off what Aaliyah could sing.  Its hard to really comment on this song since its so painfully simple but at the same time it's able to carry such strong lyrics.

7. Extra Smooth :: Whenever people have a run-through of listening to an entire album, there are a few songs that people just feel like skipping over and this one is most likely one of them.  The song isn't bad per-say, its just really monotonous at times since the same few notes are being played over and over again in the background while the melody repeats in the same manner. There could be a few instances in which some could actually like the song since Aaliyah's voice seems to have a catchy groove on its own.  Overall, the song seems like just a filler song in the album.

8. Read Between the Lines :: The song started out like another Extra Smooth in which the song sounded like the equivalent of someone just playing the drums.  As the chorus rolled the song, the vocal presence decreased, which makes things a bit interesting.  About halfway through the song, the melody became somewhat scrambled but somehow everything blended together.  It is obvious that the song is very well planned out.  Its not a really great Aaliyah song but it is quite unique.

9. U Got Nerve :: The opening had the same spirit as the previous track and my initial fear is that its going to sound the same, but as the chorus rolled in, the song started to pick up the slack.  The chorus made the song extremely catchy.  The very melody makes its fun to sing later on.  Its reminiscent to most mainstream hip hop songs that are repetitive but darn fun to sing.

10. I Refuse :: The song starts out simple and if it remained simple, the song would've been extremely boring. After the chorus, more background instruments were layered on.  When the strings were added it, it almost made the song completely different since the mood the song changed from a calm sadness into a something fatally serious. There is really no reason NOT to like this song but I personally don't really connect with this song.  Perhaps it a bit more popish than Aaliyah's other songs and I'm just so in love with the hip hop girl that she is.

11. Its Whatever :: The song starts out with a nice touch that is similar to the beginning of Rock the Boat. Afterward, it goes into a keyboard or piano background with a soft and low hip hop beat.  Such a combo has been used in some other Rap and R&B songs by other artists like Missy Elliott and Substantial.  My opinion is that it sounds extremely pretty but since it has been overused like the intense string rifts in rap songs, its understandable if some people don't like it. Aaliyah's voice maintains the same volume and intensity throughout the entire song and its very soft, making the song overall relaxing, safe, and possibly boring for some.

12.  I Can Be :: The way Aaliyah sings from the starts makes the listener connect with the determination she expresses.  The song has a strong start and gets softer in the verses.  The verses and the chorus sound similar so the overall melody seems like an extremely repetitive song.  Since the song doesn't stand out very much and maintains the same...let's say... everything, the song is just filler.

13. Those Were the Days :: The melody of Aaliyah's voice moves in a very rhythmic way from the start to finish. Since her voice is the only thing that is sort of interesting, the song is very forgettable. However, its very laid back.  Listening to it has the same effect as a smooth instrumental: its very soothing like some lounge beat but there's nothing special about this piece.  Its just okay.

14. What If :: This song snaps you out of the laid-back feeling of Those Were the Days. There is surely nothing unique about this song to make it a great hit, but it's still a decent song.  The song is really catchy - especially when Aaliyah starts singing in a rhythmic way in the chorus. Its a song that can make you want to sing along. The mood is more of determination once again. However, the song can turn some off towards the end since the chorus is repeated over and over in almost the same way. But as I said, the song isn't great but its catchy.

15.  Messed Up :: The mood intensifies at first in the song.  You can hear Aaliyah dominate over everything in this song in a good way.  Its disappointing when her voice gets jumbled up in the chorus musically.  Such a thing really is "messed up."  The verses are sung really well and its sure fun to sing along. Its not quite like an interlude since the melody is very strong and the song isn't repetitive enough but it comes awfully close. There's a hidden track in this song but I'll review that separately.

16.  Givin' Up :: The song takes it slow in the beginning. It starts out beautifully with Aaliyah's strong singing voice.  Then, she goes softer for the first verse.  It goes about in a dramatic and somewhat sad manner. The singing becomes stronger as the verse drags on. Eventually, it becomes almost a belt out. The entire song is a good showcase for Aaliyah's singing ability.  The ending is really strong both instrument and singing wise. Its a nice grand finale for Aaliyah's 2001 album.

Conclusion: This isn't one of Aaliyah's best album but it's still a good buy.  Almost all the songs are pretty strong and those that aren't are still nice to listen to. Aaliyah still stays true to her great hip hop vibe in her music and every Aaliyah fan should have this album. 

For me, I rather like the album but I keep listening to the first three songs over and over again.  I just love the startup of the album.  For those who don't like hip hop, they won't share the same opinion as me, moreover, they may not like the album in general.  If you like smooth hip hop and R&B music, then I strongly recommend this album or any of Aaliyah's for that matter.